i agree with this completely:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2007/07/17/iraq_withdrawal/

only just found it, but i agree with it completely.

update: i dont think we can win the war in iraq, for any reasonable value of "win". but jon stewart said this on the first running of the daily show after 9/11:

"
Whatever barriers we put up are gone. Even if it's just momentary. We are judging people by not the color of their skin, but the content of their character. You know, all this talk about "These guys are criminal masterminds. They got together and their extraordinary guile and their wit and their skill. . ." It's all a lie. Any fool can blow something up. Any fool can destroy. But to see these guys, these firefighters and these policemen and people from all over the country, literally with buckets, rebuilding. . . that’s extraordinary. And that's why we have already won. . . they can't. . . it's light. It's democracy. They can't shut that down.
"

i also agree with that completely. as long was we have our democracy, our freedoms, we can never lose this so called "war on terror". we have already won.